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rubio, jeff flake, ron johnson, ted cruz. we had not have a republican establishment that worries that conservatives might actually primary them. de menthe also had backed candidates who went on to lose their general elections. richard mourdock in indiana, christine o'donnell in delaware, ken buck out in colorado. bob, i'm going to back to this again. when the chief ramrod of the rift wing senate candidates leaves the post, who would replace him? how is this good news for the right? >> look, i'm not saying whether it's good news or bad news, i'm tell you what i think his calculation is. his calculation is he can be more of a free agent. i think he will get very involved in primaries, he will push hard right issues. i wish him well because the candidates e succeeded in nominating have quite often lost winnable seats. the notion for example that ted cruz -- the republicans were going to win that seat and it was going to be a conservative republican, but there are at least five senate seats and probably control of the senate tha
rubio, jeff flake, ron johnson, ted cruz. we had not have a republican establishment that worries that conservatives might actually primary them. de menthe also had backed candidates who went on to lose their general elections. richard mourdock in indiana, christine o'donnell in delaware, ken buck out in colorado. bob, i'm going to back to this again. when the chief ramrod of the rift wing senate candidates leaves the post, who would replace him? how is this good news for the right? >>...
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if i can start with you,ç jonathan, paul ryan and marco rubio spoke to a group of conservatives last night. they talked about helping the poor get into the middle class. in fact, i think we have a shot of paul ryan helping the poor. yes, there he is, in a soup kitchen during a campaign photo op. as we know, it was all just talk. when are we going to start hearing substance from these men or any republicans, for that matter? >> paul ryan would say he's been talking substance for a long time on these issues. it's just that we don't like what he's saying. we don't like his prescriptions for how he would help the poor. personally, i think paul ryan -- >> how does it help the poor by stripping meals on wheels, remove pell grants, how does that help the poor? >> that's a question for congressman ryan. i'm telling you from his mindset, his perspective, one way to help people and the economy is to ensure the country is on sound financial fiscal footing. the way he wants to go about it would devastate the very people he says he wants to help reach the middle class and achieve the american dre
if i can start with you,ç jonathan, paul ryan and marco rubio spoke to a group of conservatives last night. they talked about helping the poor get into the middle class. in fact, i think we have a shot of paul ryan helping the poor. yes, there he is, in a soup kitchen during a campaign photo op. as we know, it was all just talk. when are we going to start hearing substance from these men or any republicans, for that matter? >> paul ryan would say he's been talking substance for a long...
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marco rubio went on to win that primary and that senate seat. demint also backed rand paul in his primary. that was a fight, by the way, that took place in mcconnell's home state of kentucky and mcconnell endorsed the other guy. the not rand paul. but paul won. he won his senate race in kentucky which was deeply humiliating for mitch mcconnell. but demint has also backed a lot of candidates who won their primaries but did not go on to win their general elections. like christine "i am not a witch" o'donnell if you remember her. demint backed the not a witch candidate and she lost big time. he backed todd aiken of the legitimate rape comments and mourdock of the other rape comments. the reason jim demint isn't in the majority today is because of jim demint. but jim demint says he's okay with that. >> i'd rather have 30 republicans in the senate who believe in the principles of freedom than 60 who don't believe in anything. [ applause ] well, let -- let me make myself even clearer. i would rather have 30 marco rubios in the senate than 60 arlen spe
marco rubio went on to win that primary and that senate seat. demint also backed rand paul in his primary. that was a fight, by the way, that took place in mcconnell's home state of kentucky and mcconnell endorsed the other guy. the not rand paul. but paul won. he won his senate race in kentucky which was deeply humiliating for mitch mcconnell. but demint has also backed a lot of candidates who won their primaries but did not go on to win their general elections. like christine "i am not a...
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guys like mike lee, ted cruz, marco rubio, ron johnson, pat toomey and rand paul. yeah, rand paul, the man who wants to abolish virtually every government agency and restore the gold standard. with jim demint gone, i guess you could look at rand paul as the de facto leader of the tea party senators. establishment republicans, they ought to be nervous. senator lindsey graham looked like he was in a state of shock on the senate floor today. >> i met with jim demint this morning, and i, to say i was stunned is an understatement. he has always been a friend. somebody i could count on. personally, we've really enjoyed our time together. and i just -- i was stunned this morning. >> the tea party has poisoned, i think, the well of the senate and the republican ideology. the gop is so far out of the mainstream right now you can hardly recognize them from ten years ago. a new quinnipiac poll shows americans support raising taxes on the wealthy 65% to 31%. republicans, i think they're in the wilderness. they face a changing demographical situation in this country they don't
guys like mike lee, ted cruz, marco rubio, ron johnson, pat toomey and rand paul. yeah, rand paul, the man who wants to abolish virtually every government agency and restore the gold standard. with jim demint gone, i guess you could look at rand paul as the de facto leader of the tea party senators. establishment republicans, they ought to be nervous. senator lindsey graham looked like he was in a state of shock on the senate floor today. >> i met with jim demint this morning, and i, to...
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even marco rubio, in south florida he's huge, he's tied into that community. nationally, he's not well-known. 53% of latinos have not heard of him. his policies are outside of the latino mainstream. that's a danger in just putting an ethnic face out there. it's not going to work. >> i've heard dangerous. as political scientist, we love -- open season on vp biden will run but probably not uncontested on the democratic side. is there something specific about 2016 in terms of the rise of the tea party or the rise of diverse republicans and we ought to really be honing in on this early? >> i think when we get closer to 2016, we're going to see the fiscal fissures -- i think there are two wings of the republican party that don't agree with each other on a range of issues from climate change to immigration on a range of issues. i think we'll see those fissures come about. noticeably, there are no black contenders of the potential candidates. >> there is still a name broiling around out there. as soon as we coming, we'll stay on this issue. it's quite an interesting
even marco rubio, in south florida he's huge, he's tied into that community. nationally, he's not well-known. 53% of latinos have not heard of him. his policies are outside of the latino mainstream. that's a danger in just putting an ethnic face out there. it's not going to work. >> i've heard dangerous. as political scientist, we love -- open season on vp biden will run but probably not uncontested on the democratic side. is there something specific about 2016 in terms of the rise of the...
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with just 24 days and counting, president obama and senator marco rubio in the republican address are racheting up the rhetoric. >> we can and should do more than just extend middle class tax cuts. and i stand ready to work with republicans or a plan that spurs economic growth, creates jobs and reduces our deficit. a plan that gives both sides some of what they want. >> tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of entitlement programs will help control the debt. we must reform our complicated, uncertain job-killing tax code by getting rid of unjustifi loo holls. >> molly ball and david nakamura. thanks for joining me. >> good to be here. >> david so house speaker john boehner says there's no progress to report. the white house says republicans are to blame for dragging their feet. it seems at least publicly we're getting nowhere. is there anything bigger churning behind the scenes? >> alex, i wish i had good news for you. there's not much going on. certainly at the staff level there's still talks going on. the president did have an onization
with just 24 days and counting, president obama and senator marco rubio in the republican address are racheting up the rhetoric. >> we can and should do more than just extend middle class tax cuts. and i stand ready to work with republicans or a plan that spurs economic growth, creates jobs and reduces our deficit. a plan that gives both sides some of what they want. >> tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of entitlement programs will...
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. >> but marco rubio was not able to give a definitive answer on the answer of climate change, was he? she's not entirely isolated. >> no. i do think -- we'll see -- i'm just like, yeah, you're right, no. progress, progress, not perfection. >> jonathan? >> but, martin, here is the problem with jan brewer and senator rubio for that matter. remember, both on climate change and on immigration, their leaders in the republican party who were leading on this, remember president george w. bush was leading on immigration, so was senator john mccain, both on immigration and on climate change. the fact that the republican party has gotten away from sensible positions on both those issues shows how far down the rabbit hole the republican party has fallen. >> okay. well, politico reports governor brewer has met with casino magnate sheldon adelson amid talks she may run for president, yes, in 2016. stop laughing. he was such a big help to mitt romney, i suppose jan brewer might be the right logical choice next. after all, he's only spent, what was it? $150 million on this election? john? >> go ahe
. >> but marco rubio was not able to give a definitive answer on the answer of climate change, was he? she's not entirely isolated. >> no. i do think -- we'll see -- i'm just like, yeah, you're right, no. progress, progress, not perfection. >> jonathan? >> but, martin, here is the problem with jan brewer and senator rubio for that matter. remember, both on climate change and on immigration, their leaders in the republican party who were leading on this, remember...
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you've been speaking a lot lately to senator marco rubio, had a sit-down conversation with him. i guess when you talked to him, you took another crack at that science question. clarify an answer he gave to "gq" when he was asked about the age of the earth. remember, senator rubio took a little grief, saying that he was not qualified to answer the question, calling it, quote, one of life's great mysteries. remember, i'm not a scientist, man, the whole thing. yesterday, mike, i guess you spoke to him as part of the "playbook" breakfast and you gave him a chance to explain that answer. let's listen. >> how old do you think the earth is? >> first of all, the answer i gave was trying to make the same point the president made a few years ago, and that is there is no scientific debate on the age of the earth. i mean, it's established it. pretty definitively. at least 4.5 billion years old. i was referring to a theological debate which is a pretty healthy debate. >> mike, what did you come away with talking to marco rubio yesterday? >> people in the room came away thinking that he was r
you've been speaking a lot lately to senator marco rubio, had a sit-down conversation with him. i guess when you talked to him, you took another crack at that science question. clarify an answer he gave to "gq" when he was asked about the age of the earth. remember, senator rubio took a little grief, saying that he was not qualified to answer the question, calling it, quote, one of life's great mysteries. remember, i'm not a scientist, man, the whole thing. yesterday, mike, i guess...
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at the same dinner a more sober, compassionate, marco rubio emerged as a champion for the, let's see if you can guess. >> middle class, american middle class, great american middle class. vibrant and stable middle class. m middle class job creator. middle class. >> with 35 mentions in one speech, rubio made his love for the middle class clear. his solution what ails the middle class, tax cuts. >> they do not create rapid economic growth. you can't open or grow a business if your taxes are too high or uncertain. that's why i personally opposed the president's plan to raise taxes. we should keep rates low on everyone. >> paul ryan, meanwhile, channel his inner ian rand, the problem for the american poor is a bloated federal government. a bloated federal government that wants to spend too much to help the poor. >> government's approach has been to expand bureaucracy and spend lots of money on bloated top-down anti-poverty programs. we're trying to measure compassion by how much we spend not by how many people we help. >> the takeaway, we care. we care about the same things we always car
at the same dinner a more sober, compassionate, marco rubio emerged as a champion for the, let's see if you can guess. >> middle class, american middle class, great american middle class. vibrant and stable middle class. m middle class job creator. middle class. >> with 35 mentions in one speech, rubio made his love for the middle class clear. his solution what ails the middle class, tax cuts. >> they do not create rapid economic growth. you can't open or grow a business if...
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paul ryan, jeb bush and marco rubio. by the way, newt gingrich said sunday on "meet the press" what makes her such a formidable opponent. >> if the competitor in 2016 will be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably still relatively popular president barack obama trying to win that will be truly the super bowl and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> so should we do our little meter every week? do you want to us do it every day? tweet me some advice. how do we deal with hillary watch 2016? if you want it daily, let us know. if you want it weekly, if you need a break, you're not going to get a break. the question is daily or weekly and we'll throw jeb into that mix as well. clinton still has some real work to do before she leaves her current job, and it may well be dominated by the crisis in syria where violence from the 21-month-old civil war is spilling over the border into lebanon. 40,000 have been killed according to the syrian activist. the rebels continue to make adv
paul ryan, jeb bush and marco rubio. by the way, newt gingrich said sunday on "meet the press" what makes her such a formidable opponent. >> if the competitor in 2016 will be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably still relatively popular president barack obama trying to win that will be truly the super bowl and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> so should we do our little meter every week? do you want to us do it every...
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rubio? >> absolutely. i mean, if hillary clinton when she ran against president obama actually won the latino vote 2 to 1. more importantly, a lot of lee tonos will remember how prosperous they were under a clinton administration versus a bush administration. not only would they definitely fall in line behind hillary clinton, but also let's not forget that latinas outvote their male counterparts. so they will be leading the charge in the polling booth in favor of hillary clinton no doubt. >> wow, i cannot wait. already licking my lips at the thought of it. thank you all. >>> next, the folks behind that hash tag fire boehner tell us who would be better than the great bronzed one. stay with us. >> if you want to find the best workers in the world, you want to find the best factories in the world, you want to build the best cars or trucks or any other product in the world, you should invest in the united states of america. this is the place to do it. hey sis, it's so great to see you. you, too!
rubio? >> absolutely. i mean, if hillary clinton when she ran against president obama actually won the latino vote 2 to 1. more importantly, a lot of lee tonos will remember how prosperous they were under a clinton administration versus a bush administration. not only would they definitely fall in line behind hillary clinton, but also let's not forget that latinas outvote their male counterparts. so they will be leading the charge in the polling booth in favor of hillary clinton no doubt....
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marco rubio was for privatizing social security. he's for all the same stuff that the american people over and over again have rejected ideawise, but he can put it in a nicer package. that's what jim demint has been trying to say. if you were back at your old job, rnc chair, you may be there again for all i know, how would you repair this thing? would you go to demint and his crowd moving to the outside to sort of build their sort of logger out there to fight the establishment or would you say, wait a minute, the future is dead center conservative. it's not fringy, it's not john birch, not going over -- >> i would remind them we're a center right party very much like the country -- >> i don't agree with that. >> the country is center right. >> they just voted for obama. >> center left. >> that's another show. we'll have that conversation. but the country is center right in large measure. >> we can't have another arithmetic system. >> this is not about the math. this is about the facts and the realities on the ground. >> the facts. t
marco rubio was for privatizing social security. he's for all the same stuff that the american people over and over again have rejected ideawise, but he can put it in a nicer package. that's what jim demint has been trying to say. if you were back at your old job, rnc chair, you may be there again for all i know, how would you repair this thing? would you go to demint and his crowd moving to the outside to sort of build their sort of logger out there to fight the establishment or would you say,...
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rubio, a lot of strong, younger voices in the party i would like to see more on. i turn on the tv and see newt gingrich back on tv. he hasn't been a republican leader in about 16 years. that's a long time. we need to shift and hear some of the newer voices in the party. >> i have to say just because you have some gray hair doesn't mean you can say those things. this isn't just about being inappropriate. >> i agree, kiki. >> sometimes the truth is inappropriate. these are just dead wrong. they're promoting myths and unfactual statements and you just can't let that go. whether you're young or old, you know better than that and you shouldn't be doing it. >> i agree. i think there are smart ways to talk about a lot of these issues. i think we're going to get that opportunity and it's going to be a test for the party for how we talk about things like immigration reform. if we change how we talk about and think about the immigrant community in this country, that's going to make -- i think that's going to make a difference but it is going to be a test for the party on th
rubio, a lot of strong, younger voices in the party i would like to see more on. i turn on the tv and see newt gingrich back on tv. he hasn't been a republican leader in about 16 years. that's a long time. we need to shift and hear some of the newer voices in the party. >> i have to say just because you have some gray hair doesn't mean you can say those things. this isn't just about being inappropriate. >> i agree, kiki. >> sometimes the truth is inappropriate. these are just...
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you have paul ryan and marco rubio speaking at a jack kemp dinner. and i want to play a piece of sound from each of them. and it says something about how they see the future of the republican party. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we need to speak to the aspiration aspirations. we must speak to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> newt, that's a long way from the 47% of mitt romney. >> well, first of all, every republican should be focussed on what we just talked about. i mean, if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton, supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl.
you have paul ryan and marco rubio speaking at a jack kemp dinner. and i want to play a piece of sound from each of them. and it says something about how they see the future of the republican party. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. >> both parties tend to divide...
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marco rubio was for privatizing social security. he's for all the same stuff that the american people over and over again have rejected ideawise but he can put it in a nicer package. that's what jim demint has been trying to say. >> how do you say self deportation in spanish? >> i don't think there's a term for it. >> i won't go there. but i think to joy's point and she makes a good one that i think the reality for the gop right now is it's no longer about the packaging. it really is about the substance -- >> it's a center right party back to your strong point. >> exactly. it's about the substance of the argument you have to make to the american people and we can disagree or agree on whether the country is center right or center left but the fact of the matter is we need to be wherever the country is, that sweet spot to have that conversation. >> can i give you some advice? >> 34r50ez? >> run christie. >> you got it. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professiona
marco rubio was for privatizing social security. he's for all the same stuff that the american people over and over again have rejected ideawise but he can put it in a nicer package. that's what jim demint has been trying to say. >> how do you say self deportation in spanish? >> i don't think there's a term for it. >> i won't go there. but i think to joy's point and she makes a good one that i think the reality for the gop right now is it's no longer about the packaging. it...
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marco rubio who i think is in a tier in his own, so far ahead of anybody else if he decides to run, he's worried about just being the hispanic candidate. so he's going to start adding substantive accomplishments to his record. he has a two-year plan between now and 2014, november of 2014 to try to notch some specific accomplishments on immigration and on the economic front. so if and when he does run for president, he's not just the great communicator in the eyes of republicans, but somebody that has substantive accomplishments. for paul ryan, he doesn't want to be the austerity guy. so he too is looking at poverty, looking at immigration, and other issues to broaden his own portfolio. we have a great nugget in the piece about how in the campaign he wanted to go in inner cities, talk about poverty, and he got slapped back by the romney folks who said there's no constituency, there's no votes, we're not focusing on those issues. >> what's the next act for paul ryan coming off a losing vice presidential bid? what does he do four years from now or eight years from now? >> from my reporting,
marco rubio who i think is in a tier in his own, so far ahead of anybody else if he decides to run, he's worried about just being the hispanic candidate. so he's going to start adding substantive accomplishments to his record. he has a two-year plan between now and 2014, november of 2014 to try to notch some specific accomplishments on immigration and on the economic front. so if and when he does run for president, he's not just the great communicator in the eyes of republicans, but somebody...
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junior senator from your state from florida, marco rubio, telling politico's mike allen that immigration needs to be tackled issue by issue. take a listen. >> i think it needs to be dealt with comprehensively but not in a comprehensive bill. a comprehensive package of bills. the reason that's important is because each issue has their own constituencies and deserve to be dealt squarely for what they are. i think there's consensus on almost all of them. >> first of all, is that the best approach? and second question, which immigration issues do you feel are the most pressing? >> you know, i think marco was right on. that would be the best way to move forward. unfortunately, in washington, boast both in the house and the senate and the white house, they want to use those constituencies against each other to try to get more of what they want in the bill. the best way to do it would be to take each of the issues separately, deal with them, have open discussion and debate about them, and let the process work. but my guess is those that are at the top -- i'm talking about the leadership in both
junior senator from your state from florida, marco rubio, telling politico's mike allen that immigration needs to be tackled issue by issue. take a listen. >> i think it needs to be dealt with comprehensively but not in a comprehensive bill. a comprehensive package of bills. the reason that's important is because each issue has their own constituencies and deserve to be dealt squarely for what they are. i think there's consensus on almost all of them. >> first of all, is that the...
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rand paul, mike johnson, lee, marco rubio. there's a good group in the senate. i don't think any one of them is going to be a king maker. you are going to see conservative forces in the house and the senate coalesce. we meet with the conservative senators on a fairly regular basis. that group will sort of become the leaders of the conservative movement nationwide. >> thanks for joining me. i appreciate your time today. >> thank you. >>> history just after midnight. another milestone on the road to marriage equality. that journey is taking a detour to the supreme court. coming up, we look at the options facing the nine justices. keep it locked in. you're watching weekends with alex witt. and when you switch from another company to us, we even reward you for the time you spent there. genius. yeah, genius. you guys must have your own loyalty program, right? well, we have something. show her, tom. huh? you should see november! oh, yeah? giving you more. now that's progressive. call or click today. a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today.
rand paul, mike johnson, lee, marco rubio. there's a good group in the senate. i don't think any one of them is going to be a king maker. you are going to see conservative forces in the house and the senate coalesce. we meet with the conservative senators on a fairly regular basis. that group will sort of become the leaders of the conservative movement nationwide. >> thanks for joining me. i appreciate your time today. >> thank you. >>> history just after midnight. another...
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that suggested he might be looking beyond paul ryan, beyond marco rubio to one of these governors. it's also happening on the democratic side, martin o'malley, one of the candidates who for sure wants to run is having a fund-raiser here in chevy chase, maryland, today. then he's going to be out in los angeles this week talking to big funders. another possible democrat, andrew cuomo, your governor there in new york, to be here in d.c. today talking to new york members and senators. >> never too soon to get started on 2016. mike allen with a look at the "playbook." thanks so much. >> have a great week. >>> coming up next on "morning joe" -- >> here we go. final seconds. luck steps. luck, a little flip, donnie avery, he's in! touchdown! indianapolis has done it! >> that is the rookie, andrew luck, engineering a last-second comeback against the lions. the indianapolis colts continue their let's call it miraculous march toward the playoffs given where they were last season. mike florio, our buddy, takes us through all the nfl action including the quarterback controversy here in new york
that suggested he might be looking beyond paul ryan, beyond marco rubio to one of these governors. it's also happening on the democratic side, martin o'malley, one of the candidates who for sure wants to run is having a fund-raiser here in chevy chase, maryland, today. then he's going to be out in los angeles this week talking to big funders. another possible democrat, andrew cuomo, your governor there in new york, to be here in d.c. today talking to new york members and senators. >>...
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look at marco rubio's speech talking about the american dream beginning with janitors and other kinds of workers. ryan at that same dinner this week talking about needing to alleviate poverty. there is this -- all these cross currents in the republican party, and it comes around the issue of jobs. it comes around the issue of the fiscal cliff talks about what the party wants to be. whether there's going to be a tea party 2 or whether there's something of a vacuum that doesn't get filled with demint leaving the senate. >> all right. david, thank you so much. we'll be watching "meet the press" this sunday as we do every sunday. eugene, thank you as well. your latest column online at washingtonpost.com. >> guard that mustache, gene. >> i'm going to guard it with my life. >> and congressman emanuel cleaver, great to have you on set with us. >>> coming up, nbc chief white house correspondent chuck todd. and later in the show, "the economist" crunched the numbers and came up with the best countries to be born in in 2013. and the united states does not top their list. we'll find out who does
look at marco rubio's speech talking about the american dream beginning with janitors and other kinds of workers. ryan at that same dinner this week talking about needing to alleviate poverty. there is this -- all these cross currents in the republican party, and it comes around the issue of jobs. it comes around the issue of the fiscal cliff talks about what the party wants to be. whether there's going to be a tea party 2 or whether there's something of a vacuum that doesn't get filled with...
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marco rubio, the senator from florida, just one-third of people say he's favorable about him. that's mainly because so many people don't know him. jeb bush still has a little tarnish on the family name. a little better at 39%. both paul ryan and mitt romney check in with an approval rating of, believe it or not, 47%. >> how about that? >> ouch. >> december the 10th. 2012. >> 2012. >> in 2016. mike allen, thanks so much. >> thank you, mike. >> never too early. have a great week. >> actually, if i can just correct him, willie, i think it's a little early. >> it's way too early. >> i think we need to get out of the calendar year. let's get through advent. >> opening day. >> opening day. >> put another way. >> how about opening day 2015. >> i'll go for that. >> i love -- go back and look at polls two years before any election. go back and look at the 1978 democratic poll which i always like to do, willie. it's one of my favorites. ted kennedy was going to beat jimmy carter by 20 points in the primary and was going to be, what, howard baker or somebody. ronald reagan was just a gli
marco rubio, the senator from florida, just one-third of people say he's favorable about him. that's mainly because so many people don't know him. jeb bush still has a little tarnish on the family name. a little better at 39%. both paul ryan and mitt romney check in with an approval rating of, believe it or not, 47%. >> how about that? >> ouch. >> december the 10th. 2012. >> 2012. >> in 2016. mike allen, thanks so much. >> thank you, mike. >> never too...